So here's where I was today...

"Jay Lauer" (thefaultinourcars)
11/30/2013 at 18:46 • Filed to: None

~90-Something Corvette ZR1

This is all one man's personal garage.

Plymouth Barracuda Conv

67 Shelby GT500

67 Camaro Shell

69 Corvette 427 4-Speed

56 Chevy Two-Door Wagon

70s Corvette with <30k Miles

Chevy Chevelle 396

'29 Chevrolet

ZR1 (Again)

'57 Ford T-Bird

'64 1/2 Mustang 289

'10 Dodge Challenger

Chevy Corvair Conv

and finally....

'39 Cadillac V16 (Mid-Restoration)

I repeat. V16.

Enjoy.

DISCUSSION (34)

daender > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 18:50

The Corvette is a 68-69 because the four vertical fender scoops was only available on those two years.

Kinja'd!!!

Jay Lauer > daender
11/30/2013 at 18:53

I believe I have that one labeled as 69 Corvette 427. That's the silver one. It actually got 2nd in the country in some Corvette Concours event.

The red one is either a 76 or 78, I think.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 18:56

I need that Cadillac in my life right NOW..

Jay Lauer > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh
11/30/2013 at 18:58

Jay Leno tried buying it and he declined.

I'm afraid that may be an impossible task, sir.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:02

Yeah, I had a feeling.. Awesome piece of kit anyway :)

Ghost Dog - For the kittens > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:11

It's been so long since I've seen a reference to a pre-facelift ZR-1. Worth so much more than later ones (IMHO). It's amazing.

daender > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:12

Oh damnit, I misread that. Pretty nice vette.

Jay Lauer > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
11/30/2013 at 19:31

I haven't driven a new ZR1 yet. My guess is it's pretty comparable to a neutron bomb.

I can say the old one is a crazy capable car. Severely underrated, you're right.

Ghost Dog - For the kittens > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:39

I meant C4 pre-facelift vs. C4 post-facelift (before the regular C4 took on the ZR-1 convex rear). The front running lights are the indicator (no pun intended). It took a man of great clairvoyance and money to pick up one of the first ZR-1s, and merely a man with great money, and the ability to see the ZR-1 had sold well and received good reviews to buy one a few years later.

Jay Lauer > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
11/30/2013 at 19:44

You should meet my other friend.

A man of great money of little brains who bought an early ZR1 and then took it to Lingenfelter for MOAR POWERRR!!

I've been very fortunate to drive as many crazy sports and muscle cars as I have, being only 20, but that Lingenfelter is the 2nd scariest thing in my life I've ever been in.

Jayhawk Jake > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:48

Where in Kansas is this?

Ghost Dog - For the kittens > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:51

Ruined! That Lingenfelter Vette is now worth half of what you'd need to spend on a new Camaro to match the performance, and destine to continue to lose value. You hurt me brother... :)

Jay Lauer > Jayhawk Jake
11/30/2013 at 19:52

Wicka-Wicka-Wichita.

Jay Lauer > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
11/30/2013 at 19:53

Eh, my guess is that it's worth a lot of money now. New Camaros weigh about 18,900,872 pounds anyway.

Ghost Dog - For the kittens > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 19:59

Don't stop posting to Oppo.

Jay Lauer > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
11/30/2013 at 20:03

You ain't seen nothing yet.

I've got an SVO review coming soon hopefully.

Jayhawk Jake > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 20:05

Sweet maybe I'll see some of these around town

Jay Lauer > Jayhawk Jake
11/30/2013 at 20:08

You should on the west side.

Hell, I've driven like half of these at some point around town.

Jayhawk Jake > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 20:10

I live on the west side. For some reason I think I've seen the ZR1 but I'm not sure

Jay Lauer > Jayhawk Jake
11/30/2013 at 20:11

There's a white Lingenfelter ZR1 that lives about a mile away. Could've been that one?

Jayhawk Jake > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 20:48

Maybe? I don't know

Axial > Jay Lauer
11/30/2013 at 23:56

It's a 1990 ZR-1. It's the only year the ZR-1 had the black belt-line, and it is thus the best year. :)

P.S. the hyphen is important. ZR-1 = 1990 to 1995 car. ZR1 = 2009 to 2013 car. In rare instance, ZR-1 is used to refer to the original ZR-1 package from the 70s. =þ

Axial > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
12/01/2013 at 00:00

Eh, I dunno. I've seen LPE ZR-1s sell for over $50,000, while I see stock 1990 ZR-1s go for $15,000 or less. There's a red 1990 ZR-1 with over 80,000 miles for sale on the ZR-1 registry for $13,500, and that's including all of the stock components that are currently not on the car in favour of better components. Total steal, I say, and I wish I could trade my LT4 for it.

Jay Lauer > Axial
12/01/2013 at 00:37

Well Chevy can suck my dick about it's hypens. This is Murica, and hypens are for sissy cars and commies.

But thank you for clearing that up. It's an amazing car. The only car capable of making getting out less civilized than a Lotus Exige.

(Nobody bother arguing. I've driven both. The Corvette's a real enigma to get in and out.

Axial > Jay Lauer
12/01/2013 at 01:15

You must be one of them tall people! I've heard of you.

Jay Lauer > Axial
12/01/2013 at 02:08

5'11" 155lbs.

I can't even begin to imagine how normal Corvette owners fit in ZR-1s.

Axial > Jay Lauer
12/01/2013 at 04:39

I'm 5' 8" and 125 lbs. I don't actually find it difficult unless somebody has blocked my door from opening all the way. On entry, you just step into the footwell with your right foot, sit down onto the seat, and then pull your left leg in; no bracing required. On exit, you swing your left foot out, brace on the door sill, push yourself out, and stand right up. And I do all of this with the seat pulled up as close as it can get to the wheel.

I can't really compare it to a Lotus Exige, since I haven't sat in one. All I can really say is that I don't experience much difficulty during ingress and egress. Then again, I have been told that I am physically the perfect size for the car. I guess being short has its advantages, no?

Jay Lauer > Axial
12/01/2013 at 11:56

Well the owner is about 5'7", so it is possible that the seat could've been more forward than my liking. But I don't know, I'm just reporting my comparison.

I think it has to do with the thick sides rails or the lack of legroom. It's also a very cramped garage.

Ghost Dog - For the kittens > Axial
12/01/2013 at 13:21

Interesting. I'm not a Corvette die-hard by any means, but a keep-things-stock-at almost-any-cost-purist obviously. This is all great news for me if I ever find myself in the market for a C4 ZR-1.

Axial > Ghost Dog - For the kittens
12/01/2013 at 15:57

Most of them have been modified in some way; usually exhaust, wheels, and a chip. One would think that 1990 ZR-1 cars are valuable as a one-year style, but you have to remember about half of all C4 Zr-1s were built for MY1990. Even more than that, the ZR-1 after 1993 got a bump in power from 375 to405 and '94/'95 cars have something called Dunn, both of which are highly valued items.

Personally, I would love for 1990 ZR-1s to stay cheap. I want one, but I won't be in a position to acquire one for some time.

Also of interest, the ZR-1 in this man's garage is really valuable as one of only 19 Quasar Blue 1990 examples in existence.

Jay Lauer > Axial
12/01/2013 at 17:29

Kinja'd!!!

This is the 95 Lingenfelter. After riding in it today I can tell you that they in no way ruined the car. It's unbelievably fast. It's been heavily modified and built up the correct way and is now pushing a bit under 700hp.

I kid you not, swear to god, hand on my heart, he took me from 0-152-0 in one miles space. It's stupid fast.

Jay Lauer > Jay Lauer
12/01/2013 at 17:38

Kinja'd!!!

This also explains a bit of why it's a bit of a job to get into. Super high door sills.

Axial > Axial
12/01/2013 at 18:16

I consider LPE modifications an improvement to any Corvette, ZR-1 or not. The other guy was the keep-it-stock type. :)

I am incredibly jealous that you got to drive that. One of the best Corvettes ever built and a world game-changer, and modified to better than stock levels of performance. Yes, jealous indeed.

Jay Lauer > Jay Lauer
12/01/2013 at 18:43

Kinja'd!!!

This is probably makes it a challenge. Very low driving position matched wit very high door sills.